This week I listened to a podcast interview that I found so fascinating that as soon as it was over, I listened to it again.
I think that many Americans are determined to gain an understanding of the history of our country that is fully truthful, even if some of the most painful parts of that historical truth were omitted from the education we received. It’s hard work, a reckoning that makes us question some of our most cherished beliefs about who we are.
In the July 30 episode of the Ezra Klein Show podcast, the host interviewed two people who are at the forefront of both showing us the facts and helping make sense of them, author Ta-Nehisi Coates and investigative journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones.
One of the reasons I listened to this conversation twice was that it gave me hope. The honesty, nuance, and grace with which these writers speak gave me hope in humanity, in each other, in our ability to absorb a truer accounting of history and to move forward from this moment to a better, if still necessarily imperfect—because humans are imperfect—future.
I hope it has the same effect for you. You can listen to the podcast or read the transcript here.